# Do you have statistics on Laminas installation?

**URL:** <https://discourse.laminas.dev/t/do-you-have-statistics-on-laminas-installation/3214>\
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**Created:** [February 23, 2023, 10:18pm UTC](https://discourse.laminas.dev/t/do-you-have-statistics-on-laminas-installation/3214 "2023-02-23T22:18:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![visto9259](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/discourse.laminas.dev/visto9259/32/669_2.png) [@visto9259](https://discourse.laminas.dev/u/visto9259)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 10:18pm UTC](https://discourse.laminas.dev/t/do-you-have-statistics-on-laminas-installation/3214/1 "2023-02-23T22:18:46Z")

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Does the Laminas project team have any statistics on how many applications are using the various Laminas frameworks (MVC, Api-Tools, Mezzio)?

Packagist shows over 9M+ installs of laminas-mvc, about 12K/week, but I figure that is counting how many times a composer out there is installing and updating laminas-mvc.

I am just curious to see how does Laminas compare to Laravel, Symfony and others in terms of unique installs.

Thanks

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**Author:** ![froschdesign](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/discourse.laminas.dev/froschdesign/32/38_2.png) [@froschdesign](https://discourse.laminas.dev/u/froschdesign)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 9:00am UTC](https://discourse.laminas.dev/t/do-you-have-statistics-on-laminas-installation/3214/2 "2023-02-24T09:00:20Z")

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Packagist is a good source, but you should also check some individual components.

Here are some examples:

- laminas-diactoros
- laminas-code
- laminas-feed
- laminas-escaper
- …

Because Laminas is not only MVC, Mezzio or API-Tools, the components are important and used in different projects. Examples:

- Magento
- Owncloud
- Drupal
- Laravel
- CodeIgniter
- Shopware
- CakePHP
- Spiral Framework
- PHPWord
- Joomla
- Kirby CMS
- Wallabag
- …

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**Author:** ![visto9259](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/discourse.laminas.dev/visto9259/32/669_2.png) [@visto9259](https://discourse.laminas.dev/u/visto9259)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 1:48pm UTC](https://discourse.laminas.dev/t/do-you-have-statistics-on-laminas-installation/3214/3 "2023-02-24T13:48:21Z")

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Thanks @froschdesign.

These are good points.

I am trying to evaluate the adoption of Laminas as a framework for websites with respect to others.

It would be nice if there was a way for Composer/Packagist to provide the number of unique installs or have people install a Google tag in their production websites to provide usage statistics.

Regards

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**Author:** ![ocramius](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/discourse.laminas.dev/ocramius/32/23_2.png) [@ocramius](https://discourse.laminas.dev/u/ocramius)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://discourse.laminas.dev/t/do-you-have-statistics-on-laminas-installation/3214/4 "2023-02-24T15:29:11Z")

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> or have people install a Google tag in their production websites to provide usage statistics.

Honestly, no: this is just a privacy nightmare 🙂

Packagist installs are already enough, and they don’t include CI environments.

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**Author:** ![visto9259](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/discourse.laminas.dev/visto9259/32/669_2.png) [@visto9259](https://discourse.laminas.dev/u/visto9259)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://discourse.laminas.dev/t/do-you-have-statistics-on-laminas-installation/3214/5 "2023-02-24T16:14:29Z")

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I found this statement on [kinsta.com/blog/php-frameworks](https://kinsta.com/blog/php-frameworks). It was published January 2023.

> The Zend Framework has had more than **570 million installations**. It’s also the most used PHP framework by enterprises.

She is refering to Zend Framework but she also mentions that Laminas is the successor to it. I wonder how she calculated that statistics…

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**Author:** ![Tyrsson](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/discourse.laminas.dev/tyrsson/32/1664_2.png) [@Tyrsson](https://discourse.laminas.dev/u/Tyrsson)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://discourse.laminas.dev/t/do-you-have-statistics-on-laminas-installation/3214/6 "2023-05-25T21:14:20Z")

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> [@froschdesign](#):
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> - Magento
> - Owncloud
> - Drupal
> - Laravel
> - CodeIgniter
> - Shopware
> - CakePHP
> - Spiral Framework
> - PHPWord
> - Joomla
> - Kirby CMS
> - Wallabag
> - …

Got to include Xenforo in there as well 🙂